Empire Pool, London

From transcription discs

Notes from the compiler: This new version of Wembley 15/4/1975 has been compiled using the best pre-FM sources in order to make it the most complete possible. It may seem similiar to the already existing A Perfect Vintage, which is truly amazing, but this one was created anew. I used only the most recent pre-FM sources released on cd by Weswood One for a better sound quality, and the essential parts of the rare BBC master reels that are unique because they include the story before Back In NYC, Lilywhite Lilith and the full The Waiting Room, the latter being always abridged in all subsequent radio shows releases and broadcasts. The last track of the collection, the censored version of Back In NYC, was once again taken directly from a WW1 cd, but the idea for its inclusion was stolen from A Perfect Vintage, which was in any case a pivotal release both for quality and selection of tracks. Hopeflly this is now the definitive edition of this fantastic radio show. AV

Simply the best... better than all the rest! 8-) [LivingForever]

Notes from the compiler: This new version of Wembley 15/4/1975 has been compiled using the best pre-FM sources in order to make it the most complete possible. It may seem similiar to the already existing A Perfect Vintage, which is truly amazing, but this one was created anew. I used only the most recent pre-FM sources released on cd by Weswood One for a better sound quality, and the essential parts of the rare BBC master reels that are unique because they include the story before Back In NYC, Lilywhite Lilith and the full The Waiting Room, the latter having always been abridged in all subsequent radio shows releases and broadcasts. The last track of the collection, the censored version of Back In NYC, was once again taken directly from a WW1 cd, but the idea for its inclusion was stolen from A Perfect Vintage, which was in any case a pivotal release both for quality and selection of tracks. This new version of the show fixes the strange sonic issue on track 14 at 1:14/1:20 which was due to a problematic non-original source in that particular point. Now i've found an original WW1 radio show covering that part of the performance, i have been able to finally correct the problem. Other features of this new version are a better crossfade between all the tracks, and an improved sound rendition of the 3 tracks taken from the rare BBC reels (courtesy of Mr. Dunnington). Now they sound exactly as good as the WW1 CDs sourced tracks. In addiction, i managed to restore the very beginning of Back In NYC which now starts without being covered by the applause and it is complete. Hopefully (again!) this is now the definitive edition of this fantastic radio show. AV

Wow! I have had the BBC "Pop Spectacular" Vinyl for almost 20 years, I once thought that to be the Definative recording. AV has gone one step above and beyond to bring us this most excellent compilation. The 9:33 "Waiting Room" alone is worth getting this title! Unless you have a whole lot of money to spend, Get this one! [reformedsniper]

Source: BBC master reels, except “The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging” (Westwood One ''BBC Classic Tracks'', show #92-34) - provided by Alessandro Vasserot. Restored (mainly phase correction and de-noising) with Cedar Cambridge.
Digital SQ-Quad decoding with Adobe Audition scripts developed by Andreas Kempf.
CD-Audio: specially remixed from the decoded Quadraphonic masters with reduced ambience (Stereo).
DVD audio tracks: original SQ-Mix (Advanced Resolution Stereo: Linear PCM 24 bit, Quadraphonic surround 4.0: dts 24 bit/1509 Kbps and Dolby Digital 448 Kbps)
DVD Video (stills): NTSC 720x480 16:9
DVD-Extras: THE AUDIENCE RECORDING (FULL SHOW)
COMBINED PLAY (AUDIENCE REC.+ RADIO SHOW)
SELECTED RADIO SHOW INTRODUCTIONS 1975-2002
BACK IN N.Y.C. - CENSORED VERSION


Wow, Tom & the team have really come up with the goods on this one. The ultimate version of this show on CD & Quad DVD...Jaw dropping..A must have for all G fans. :) [squonkendos]

This is an amazing recording, almost official-release quality, perhaps my favorite bootleg of the Lamb, and well worthy of an A+ rating. Not sure why the band didn't use this show for Archive 1, as I think it is superior to Shrine. Love the version of Waiting Room here. Too bad the BBC master didn't have the entire show. [ca1ore]

Dreaming Spires Audiophile Release - SQ-Fv Decoded from SQ source. DTS Surround.

This disc contains the following audio options: DVD-A: MLP DVD-V: DTS & Dolby Digital [oxforddickie]

GENESIS
"BBC In Concert Classics: Genesis"
Westwood One In Concert I 90-03
Live at The Empire Pool
Wembley, UK
15 April 1975
&
Live at The Nassau Coliseum
Long Island, New York, USA
29 November 1981
Original Airdate: 5 February 1990

Lineage: Original Westwood One Radio Networks pre-FM Translucent Vinyl LPs ---> audio-technicaAT-LP60-USB Turntable ---> Audacity ----> .wav files ---> Goldwave ---> Trader's Little Helper Level 8 ---> FLAC files ---> Genesis Movement Torrents ---> You

GENESIS
"BBC In Concert Classics: Genesis"
Westwood One In Concert IC 86-23
Live at The Empire Pool
Wembley, UK
15 April 1975
&
Live at The Nassau Coliseum
Long Island, New York, USA
29 November 1981
Original Airdate: 17 November 1986

Lineage: Original Westwood One Radio Networks pre-FM Translucent Vinyl LPs ---> audio-technica AT-LP60-USB Turntable ---> Audacity ----> .wav files ---> Goldwave --->Trader's Little Helper Level 8 ---> FLAC files ---> Genesis Movement Torrents --->You

GENESIS
"BBC In Concert Classics: Genesis"
Westwood One In Concert IC 87-09
Live at The Empire Pool
Wembly, UK
15 April 1975
&
Live at The Nassau Coliseum
Long Island, New York, USA
29 November 1981
Original Airdate: 11 May 1986

Lineage: Original Westwood One Radio Networks pre-FM Translucent Vinyl LPs ---> audio-technica AT-LP60-USB Turntable ---> Audacity ----> .wav files ---> Goldwave --->Trader's Little Helper Level 8 ---> FLAC files ---> Genesis Movement Torrents --->You

This recording really rocks!

Claims To Be Pre-FM

What more to say... ??? [Gigio67]

This boot is frequently confused with TM Productions releases. Actually, it has nothing to do with it. The sheet just says: "150475-2 ™© PRODUCTIONS, LTD. & HAMILTON A/V.", so TM is just the standard abbreviation for "Trademark" and there's a copyright sign between "TM" and Productions. [tom]

The most complete and best version yet.

Coaster Factory Remaster

the sources for this were the Highland boot Light Goes Down on Empire and some tracks from A Perfect Vintage, not the available pre-FM Westwood One and King Biscuit transcription discs [squonkman]

Cuckoo Cocoon is not on this CD.

my Lamb Stew says it has some tracks from the LA Shrine show, which I don't know is accurate or not [squonkman]

My favourite old "TAKRL" vynil release, it sounds amazing compared to the other old bootz. [Gigio67]

nice release and artwork, has full Evil Jam, but no Grand Parade and Cage is out of order [squonkman]

All tracks from Dutch radio broadcast 29-Jan-2010 with the exception of tracks 5 and 9.

Lineage: FM stereo broadcast---> TDK cassette tape---> Goldwave

Posted by godbluff on 2006-04-07 09:15:11
These are definitely from the same show - I'm sure seasoned Genesis collectors out there have seen the confusion over this broadcast many times. To begin with Genesis didn't play at the Empire Pool in 74, the whole UK tour including the originally scheduled Wembley gig on 4 Nov had to be cancelled when Steve Hackett injured his hand and was rescheduled for the following Spring. The Wembley Empire Pool show on 15 April 75 was broadcast on BBC Radio 1 shortly after, although only an hour of it, the remainder has never surfaced. It was subsequently re-broadcast many times in various countries, sometimes with a slightly altered track list. Unfortunately it seems some of these were incorrectly attributed by the announcers to be from the original date for the show that was never played. This error was then carried forward onto many boot CDs. A pre-FM version has been in circulation for some time and there are various versions which have compiled all the broadcast tracks together.

Lineage:
Sources > WavePad Sound Editor > flac > TLH > Mr./Mrs. X

Sources (in order of presence):
- "We Are The Lamia Of The Pool" PRRP010 (Audience Recording)
- AV01 v.2 (Pre-FM Recording)
- "This Is The One!" (Audience Recording)
- from April 14th 1975, used to patch a gap in the second story of Rael

GENESIS
"BBC In Concert Classics: Genesis"
Westwood One In Concert IC 88-25
Live at The Empire Pool
Wembley, UK
15 April 1975
&
Live at The Nassau Coliseum
Long Island, New York, USA
29 November 1981
Original Airdate: 5 December 1988

Lineage: Original Westwood One Radio Networks pre-FM Translucent Vinyl LPs ---> audio-technica AT-LP60-USB Turntable ---> Audacity ----> .wav files ---> Goldwave --->Trader's Little Helper Level 8 ---> FLAC files ---> Genesis Movement Torrents --->You

Also released by Golden Stars GSCD1143 with the same artwork. [therealovo]

Actual tracks on GS1143 In The Cage / Back In NYC / Hairless Heart / Counting Out Time (listed as Chamber) / The Carpet Crawlers / Evil Jam / Last track is : Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats, The Colony Of Slippermen-Arrival, Ravine, The Light Dies Down On Broadway, Riding The Scree (listed as the lamb lies down on broadway) [therealovo]

Superb 1st Generation audience recording

Various Pre-FM sources have surpassed this particular CD but it's still very good quality and contains everything that was ever broadcast from this show. [LivingForever]

one of the best Highland releases ever, since it included all tracks ever broadcast [squonkman]

PRRP Remaster

The complete version of the famous Empire Pool gig, in audience form. Excellent sound for it's age. [Jesper Moonen]

Nice sounding show, but maybe PRRPGS001 - Genesis - There's Always Magic In The Air Jahrhunderthalle, Frankfurt, Germany is a bit better. This is one of the most famous Lamb Lies shows, but Frankfurt is a better performance. This one is rated A- both for sound and performance for me. [ponkine]

The legendary show of the Empire Pool is full of surprises like The Waiting Room... Although, this version is the complete gig, the sound is not that good, however, it still highly enjoyable and a must-have [Jack_Floyd]

This one has the advantage of having a legendary status attached to it. The fact that it is the complete show makes it a must have when all the other FM sources only give you highlights. I do not think it is the best audience recording out there for this tour but it is enjoyable to listen to; no doubt. It doesn't have the effect that you are sitting way in the back hardly able to hear anything so that is a good thing. Highly recommended! [duke23]

Liner notes indicate that this was more than likely recorded near the front row in Empire Pool. That is probably why it doesn't sound like it was captured from the back. [duke23]

Picked up the vinyl many moons ago and gave it an A- from memory of playing it then and before the turntable was shoved up the loft a few years back.I also acquired a limited edition CD produced on GEMA/BIEM label described as being made by fans for fans. That would be the same rating or maybe an A [lamiapoolattendant]

Notes from torrent :

Now About this and why mono This version of this broadcast has been bootleg / remastered etc
from differant sources and released more times than most Genesis Show, but i've not
come across one from this broadcast. Radio 1 used the stereo Tapes but only broadcast the show on
the AM Mono channel. The Broadcast was on Sunday 2nd Feb 1986 at 15.00hrs.
I Taped it in PURE MONO i transfered it to the P.C again in PURE MONO so as to keep to the orignal broadcast.
Then pasted the Mono channel to 2 channel mono.
This may not be to everyones taste being in mono as the quality is not as good as most of the stereo version
but i thought someone might wish to hear it the qualiy is still V-Good to EX.